Wednesday, January 03, 2007

Two Noah Berlatsky comics















10 comments:

aeron said...

Great morbid strips, it's interesting that I can look at one single squiggly line representing the landscape across the horizon and know it's unmistakably your work.

Luke P. said...

I know. These two are great. I'll print off some minis of these if you get enough material together David.
Well, we'll talk about it anyhow... ( can't commit to it right now for $ reasons..).

Noah Berlatsky said...

Awww...for me?

Sorry to disappoing you, but I actually like both of these fine. I really like your inky drawing style (as I think I mentioned before), and when the intent is so clearly to offend, how can I be offended? (I mean, I love Johnny Ryan's stuff — are you a fan of his?)

And I have a similar reaction to Johnny's work; when he's being surrealistically blatently offensive, it's great. But (very occasionally) he just lets a stereotype be a punchline — and I find that boring and (because of the thoughtlessness) kind of offensive. He's one of my favorite cartoonists ever, though. That KKK mini he just put out is super, though it's probably sold out already....

Paleo said...

"Awww", i was just pulling your leg, and while the strips are somehow an exercise in offensiveness, they ain't just that.

I'm glad you liked 'em though!

Another reason i titled the post that way its that i wanted you to take a look at my response to your "spreading sadness and illwill" post, go man, GO!

I love Ryan's stuff, i think he's one of the most underrated artists today, in his own way, he draws as well as Jaime Hernandez; classic, elegant, sublimely expresive and not a line wasted, and also yes, he's funny.

He once told me, after reading my "Mengeloid" comic in House of Twelve #3, that i was "the most disgusting cartoonist alive", it was a compliment, and coming from that sick nerd, i held it as a badge of honour.


The "stereotype be a punchline", well, why don't you try to be a working cartoonist? you can't always win'em all, also, i take a lot of this stuff as a joke on the thinking behind the stereotype, not the subject of scorn of the same; KKK guys simplifying everything to a race struggle are funny because they are so dumb and brutal, its a Three Stooges social construct!

I never digged much the "kick down the victim" school of humour, unless the "victims" are sensitive alternative cartoonists, then look up at the sky, you'll find me commanding a Red Baron like squad of flying bullies, hunting down those whiny fuckers with a tornado of lead and powder!

Noah Berlatsky said...

Being an artist can be difficult in lots of way (not "working in a coal mine" difficult, but still....) And as I said, Johnny's one of my favorite cartoonists ever, probably. It'd be weird if he *never* did anything I disliked -- perfect aesthetic consensus is rare, and a little eerie.

Noah Berlatsky said...

Oh, yeah, I meant to ask; did my comments actually inspire these cartoons? If they did, I'll have to find fault with your art more often....

zeke said...

The vulture strip's especially fantastic! really great. I can't get into johnny ryan's stuff at all though, I've tried my best to like his stuff but it just doesn't seem funny! not 'cause of offensiveness either, all I can think is that it's 'cause of 'viz' which has taken the sting out of his stuff maybe.

Paleo said...

Noah: no, those are back from 2004 (they are dated, what's with Photobucket resizing stuff super small?) but you can keep trying!

Zeke: what 'viz' means?

Luke P. said...

Does VIZ ( I think its a Brit comics humour mag, like MAD, sorta..) do this kind of humor?
I love how inevitably someone is going to Google 'Noah Berlatsky' and come up with this post.

zeke said...

'viz' is a british comic that's kind of a parody of other british comics like 'the beano' and 'dandy' and has characters like 'buster gonads' and 'johnny fartpants'. I haven't read it for ages and don't recall it having been anywhere near as wild as johnny ryans stuff, but as a schoolkid reading it,it was awesome and very, very funny!